UNRAVELING THE FEAR OF ABANDONMENT: A DEEP DIVE ON TRAUMA, SELF-ABANDONMENT, PEOPLE PLEASING, TOXIC POSITIVITY, AND DEVELOPING SELF-TRUST WITH AMY FIEDLER

Ever felt the pull of toxic positivity, urging you to keep smiling even when you're drowning inside? Amy Fiedler, a certified trauma support specialist and life coach, joins us to unravel the paradox of toxic positivity, and how it's often a facade for unresolved trauma and a form of self-abandonment. We journey through Amy's evolution from the fashion industry to the healing profession, discussing her own experiences and understanding of creating a trusting environment for healing. She highlights the damaging effects of self-abandonment and its manifestations in toxic relationships, and how small survival strategies like people-pleasing can fuel this cycle.

As we continue our enlightening discourse with Amy, we delve into the realms of trauma, love, care, kindness and support. We uncover the complexities of trauma and the significance of recognizing and defining these basic emotions to cope with it. Amy emphasizes the role of a reliable support system and the necessity to trust it as part of the healing journey. She candidly shares her transition into motherhood, discussing how her energy and priorities shifted with this life-altering experience. Don't miss this enriching conversation, as we embark on a journey of healing, self-discovery, and personal growth, right here on The Femme Cast.

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MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 0:32

Hey you guys, what is up? Welcome back to the show. So excited and grateful to have you here. And again, I find myself excited and grateful to share my guest with you today. She's none other than Amy Fiedler. I have been following Amy for years. She has been, first of all, she's a certified trauma support specialist and life coach, and she played a huge part in my healing journey in terms of understanding some of my toxic relationship dynamics, where they were coming from and how I could understand the trauma that was creating those experiences. So I am very excited and grateful to have her here to share with you guys today her wisdom on trauma, toxic positivity and learning to trust ourselves. Again here, she is none other than Amy Fiedler, right here on the Femcast.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 1:21

Amy, thank you so much for being here. I am so grateful and humble to have you on the show. I have been a loyal fan of yours for many years and you've helped me through some very difficult moments in my relationship healing. So I'm very, very honored to have you in this podcast today and to be able to share you with my audience. So tell us a little bit about who you are and why you're so amazing. Yeah, no, no, honestly own it, own it. This is your moment to just, you know, step into into that glory because you've truly been, you've truly been life changing to have in my space. So thank you for that. Oh, you're so welcome.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 2:02

You're already going to make me cry, but I'm also very pregnant right now.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 2:08

Yes, she's very pregnant and looking gorgeous. Thank you, First of all. I'm honored that that I have impacted your life that way, that always. That never gets old to hear, truly, and I think sometimes people can become immune to that over the years After helping, like thousands of people. But I always get choked up when someone tells me that because you know, like I didn't when I got started and since you've been around quite a while listening to me, you probably know this, but I didn't have a lot of support. So to be able to give what you didn't get is truly a gift, and one that I never take for granted. So a very brief kind of intro to me to your listeners that that are maybe not familiar my name is obviously Amy Ppler. I am a certified trauma support specialist and a certified holistic life coach. I have been doing this for well over 10 years. Wow, At this point, yeah, and honestly, it all began. People always ask me the same questions, usually like what got you into this? And I'm always like I didn't plan this.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 3:25

I struggled deeply as a teenager with emotions and a pretty chaotic upbringing, and I went to conventional therapy and I always preface with you know, to each their own, there are different modalities and therapeutic practices for everybody. For me at that time and and the therapist that I went to, it wasn't helpful. I didn't feel heard, I didn't feel understood. They really just kind of like labeled me, diagnosed it, gave me some meds and sent me on my way. So I spent years at that point and this was not a career intention I spent years at that point really trying to understand my emotions, trying to understand why I behave the way I did and understand other people, because my upbringing was pretty toxic in many ways, you know, and through that exploration I went in a million different directions, like the spiritual route. You know, the very woo, woo let's affirm good shit into our life. You know, like the toxic positivity.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 4:40

I'm so glad he went there. But yes, yes.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 4:43

And and really went down a rabbit hole in those directions to two extreme levels, to where they were damaging, and ultimately and I always talk about this in trauma healing, the pendulum swings to extremes. So you try to do the exact opposite of everything you've ever done and and that can take you in a very harmful direction as well, until you kind of find that balance. And that balance took me probably over 20 years, to be honest. But once I started to find it and make sense of things and then really expand my own education, I went from a career path in fashion to suddenly like I want to help people for a living and ended up here.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 5:33

I laughed because I actually went to school for fashion and that was my original intention Wild Wild.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 5:41

I didn't even go to school, for I went to school and was like a photography major and then favored like fashion photography and then fashion photography. Yeah, it's so cool, right, I still love it, even though, yeah, it's same, I still love it too, but I it definitely. I experienced a lot there A lot of fun, a lot of brag, worthy experiences, but I was also like this is not fulfilling to the degree that I need it to be.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 6:09

Oh, it felt so empty actually, in many ways.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 6:11

Yeah, yeah, you touched on something that's really important and I think and this is this is really why I invited you, you know, to come on the show today and you know I'm gonna keep this brief because I want this to be about you, but just a little snippet.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 6:26

You know, I went through something very similar in that, you know, I was going through a very, very obvious pattern of repeated toxic relationships and after, you know, a lot of therapy and trying to rework things that way and not finding, like you said, that, that, that Safe space where I kind of felt, you know, heard or understood. Then I went into spirituality and initially started off really great, right. And then you know, toxic positivity, all the mindset work, and, oh my god, why isn't this working? Why do I keep manifesting all this crap, people telling me that there's something wrong with me or my vibe, then sending me further down the self hatred spiral that I was, that I was going down and inevitably ended up creating more damage Then I had initially when I started on my healing journey, because I didn't realize that there was some unresolved trauma there beneath the surface yeah.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 7:19

And that was manifested in, that was manifesting in chaos and heartbreak and emotional abandonment, like there was just so many cycles around me, that are patterns around me that kept me in this toxic loop of repeating the same relationships again and again and again, and every time it got more and more intense and more and more painful.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 7:39

Yeah so what? After following you, what I realized was happening was there was this unresolved trauma there from toxic patterning, from bad you know experiences when I was like out of it, you know, at a very young age, that hadn't been resolved, or you know process, in a healthy way that was contributing to a lot of the dynamics that I was experiencing and the mindset work was just like Trying to paint over like a wall that was falling down. You know what I mean. Yeah, wasn't actually doing the real work, so talk to me a little bit about that. What your experience has been and have you come across this before? Is this a thing like? Is this a regular thing that you see coming across?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 8:18

Oh man, it's very much a regular thing and I hate. I hate being the person that's like not enough people are talking about it, but the truth is is that we don't hear about it a lot. Yeah, because the place that you're in and I'm sure you can probably attest to this as well, when I kind of went down that route it's because you're in a place with yourself where you're desperate and I'm so desperate, yeah, and you're grasping at these straws and and that is giving you the extreme. You know, it's that whole extreme mentality thing. It's giving you the exact opposite of where you are and and it really feeds off of like a wow, like this is going to get me out of this yeah it's going to save me.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 9:09

It's going to save me, it's going to rescue me, it's going to make me feel better and, of course, we're missing all the nuance. We're missing that the people talking about it online, like, also have hardships in their life, but the picture they're painting is only of the good stuff. Yeah, you know, or they have like Manipulating themselves into believing. If I just slam these affirmations, I remember the first time I started trying to explain affirmations to someone, like the proper way to use them. They were like I've never heard this before and I'm like that makes me so sad. But yeah, affirmation is not going to work if you haven't actually addressed the issue. Yeah, that caused you to believe or say or think or whatever the thing that you're trying to change.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 9:59

Oh, that is so. That is that right there encapsulates the whole thing, and I think you know affirmation, work in mindset, work becomes very easy when you heal what's, you know, the underlying trauma beneath that right.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 10:11

Yeah, yeah, it's just it's, it's just the upkeep. Yeah, at that point it's not the deep clean, you know. Yeah, it's the deep clean is. Let me dig in, yeah, and and not dig into the to the extent that, like, I need to revisit every trauma I've been again and again and again, yeah, no, it.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 10:32

And again, people have these ideas and I don't know where they come from sometimes, but the truth is, is that like, really, and I kind of work like a three step method with everyone that I work with and and that starts with awareness. If you're awareness, that's always step one. Yeah, and, as long as you are aware, I got a problem, I'm struggling. There's a pattern here. Whatever it is, that's great. Check. We got through step one. Step two is like, let me understand this a little bit more. And again, some people don't have, like I don't have a lot of childhood memories. Yeah, they're, they're not really there to this day. It doesn't matter. I've worked on myself for over, you know, 20 years or whatever. Like, yeah, they're not there, I don't need them.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 11:18

Yeah, you can tap into the wisdom yeah, I can tap into the wisdom I can. I can pull out the feedback, but also like, if they come up at some point. The takeaway here is I have tools, yeah, to process and feel and hold space for those emotions if and when they emerge. And that's the problem is people have this concept of healing that is warped and they think I have to clean everything up from the past in order to move forward.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 11:44

And that's not how this works it becomes another toxic relationship that we get ourselves into the relationship. A lot of the healing yeah.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 11:51

Yeah, well said, because that's exactly what it is. It just becomes something else you fixate on and obsess over and dwell on, and it's not productive.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 12:01

Yeah, absolutely, and I think also, like the affirmations and the mindset work and all those things, they do work beautifully, but they can't be the be all end. All right, we have to be, you know, we have to do healing in a holistic way and I think that you know when we are experiencing challenge, we need to change this narrative that it's toxic to have negative emotions. I think you know you mentioned toxic positivity and I had an episode of that on the podcast. It's a real thing, like it is out there. You know. I think people are getting a little bit more mindful about it now and a little bit more aware, but for the longest time, you know, it was considered low vibe to talk about a pain point.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 12:38

I love the low vibe.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 12:40

Yeah, you know what I'm like. What is what is wrong? What are we teaching people? Are we teaching people that it's not okay to look at what they're feeling, because that is back ass, backwards?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 12:50

Yeah, well, and but they are like that's the thing. Is they really, where they're at with themselves, have a belief system that, if I allow in a negative thought, that it's going to manifest? And you know, it makes us have to like zoom out and redefine all these words like that's not how manifestation works. Number one yeah. Number two your negative emotions are healthy. They make you human and you are. The goal is to feel them and validate them and get comfortable with them. Not, that doesn't mean you're perpetuating them. It doesn't mean you're keeping them around, it's. You know, I always tell people you have to accept where you're at before we can kind of move forward. And they're like, but I don't want to keep this, yeah, I don't want to stay here and I go. Acceptance doesn't mean that Exactly.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 13:45

Just means you move through it.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 13:46

Yes, yeah, it's what I do on every week. That's true, because I'm sure I'll be a recurring guest, no problem.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 13:57

Okay, couple I can't remember when it was, I think it was last week you posted something that I have done a lot of work on myself when it comes to spirituality, mindset and trauma work, and you posted something that blew my fucking mind.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 14:11

I can't remember the exact words. I wish I would have looked it up before today, but it was something along the lines of you know if you're experiencing, you know if, if, if you're self abandonment manifests as fear of abandonment or something, or vice versa. I can remember how you worded it, but basically along the lines of if you're somebody who struggles with and is prone to abandoning yourself, that will manifest itself as fear of abandonment. I was mind blown. Can we like talk about that for a sec?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 14:37

Absolutely yeah. Patterns of I haven't written in front of me, patterns of self abandonment often spark fears of abandonment.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 14:45

Yeah.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 14:46

And essentially, you know like we will fear abandonment number one if we have experienced abandonment from someone else in our life, and that's typically, I mean that could happen in childhood or adulthood. That could be emotional neglect, you know, physical, whatever, or adulthood, but also if we have patterns of, let's say, people pleasing is a very popular one, right? If you are prone to prioritizing the needs and the wants of other people and, mind you, people pleasing is a survival strategy that was adapted at a young age, so that relational template that you now just walk around with this label of I'm a people pleaser, you are prone to probably fearing abandonment. Most people are if they're a pleaser because you constantly abandon yourself and they don't realize the impact of like, what this projection kind of does and how it takes a toll on you. In situations it's very easy to blame it on someone else and be like they're going to leave me if I do X, y and Z, but the truth of the matter is like you already left yourself by doing X, y and Z.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 15:59

And it's hate like when I because so this was my story, right, like I've been a people pleaser my entire life and my biggest fear was the fear of being abandoned and rejected. So the hardest thing in the world for me was learning to just stop in a moment and say, no, I'm not going to do what I, what I, my mind is telling me, is going to please this person. I'm going to give myself what I need first, and then I'll deal with what's going on over there. Yeah, that was hard. It is hard, it is hard. It's still hard to this day Sometimes.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 16:31

Let me tell you I mean I thought I had it going pretty well and then, and then I got pregnant and I it took it to a whole different level, you know, because now I'm like I'm catching patterns in me that, like again before being pregnant I was maybe had a layer that I was like tolerant of. Yeah, now I'm like, well, my bandwidth has switched and my energy has changed and my priorities are different and you know, I'm thinking into the future and so it. That's why I'm constantly saying to people healing is layered. Yeah, you, every time you hit a new point in your life, have a new experience. It's going to naturally peel back a new layer. You're going to start to assess yourself and your environments and your relationships again and you're going to think you had it down. Yep, I mean, there's been plenty of times where I'm like I got this.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 17:31

I got this boundary queen over here, I figured out, and then you know, and then you get knocked up and you're suddenly like, well, no, I have not been advocating for myself to this degree. You know, now it's very different.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 17:45

Yep, oh my God, that is so true and it's true. I have actually said that. If I said it to a friend of mine on a call, I'm like, yeah, boundary queen over here. I got it all figured out literally two days later. I was like damn it.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 17:58

That's what I mean. Life keeps us humble, right Like at the end of the day, it's like it's best and healthiest and the most balanced to go into any type of therapy, healing work, personal development, with the mindset that there is not an end goal here. No, let me expand my capacity.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 18:22

Let me become more aware, let me be open to the feedback that life and people in my life bring to me, let me be willing to grow and evolve. And if I close off to one of those things, or all of those things, that's definitely where life gets hardest, because you're not willing to look at yourself or you're not open to the accountability or you thought you mastered the boundary setting thing, and it's like it always makes me giggle a little, and not always out loud, but when someone's like OK.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 18:56

I got it all figured out and I go OK, Call me in a week, See you soon. It's so true, and you know what I think. I always say this, and I think that what you just said says it so powerfully is that it is an evolution. It does happen in layers and I think that the mistake, a lot of the times that we all make even I've made it so many times I'm just going to go and fix this thing about me that doesn't seem to be working, and then everything will be fine. It's an evolution over time and I don't think that ever. I mean we don't. It's not something that has to end. There's no start and end date on it. It just happens and we evolve and things change and I think that when we look at our healing from that perspective doesn't have that same heaviness to it. It feels a little bit more expansive, and that's just how I've been trying to wrap my head around it.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 19:42

No, but you're spot on, you know what it is. I think people need to put an end date on it because they need a sense of control over it. Yeah, and without that end date, without the finish line, it can feel emotionally, it can feel very overwhelming, but it can, you know. I think that then comes back to you having to manage your emotions. It's just like they're all intertwined.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 20:09

So yeah, that's a fun process. How would you say? You know, it's been very entertaining, to say the least. I could write a sitcom on it. Yeah, for real.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 22:47

What would you say is the balance between you know, the spirituality, the mindset work, the trauma healing, like how do you know, like, how does someone navigate all this? Like I mean, it was a lot of guessing work obviously in the beginning and I know I have my ways of thinking through. Ok, now it's time to do trauma work, now it's time to do mindset work. How do you balance those two elements out?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 23:09

I mean for myself, it's probably a little different than like how I would talk to somebody else, just mainly because, like for me, it comes down to my own self-trust, right. So when I'm sitting with myself I'm really clued in to what's coming up for me and what I need, and I can't always articulate it, but I'll know what I need and I'll go in that direction. And it's not, first of all, it's not a coach or therapist's job to tell other people what to do. You know what.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 23:41

I mean Amen.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 23:41

Like it's our job to?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 23:44

Yeah, it's so, but it's so important because that's even that's harmful to do to someone. You create a dependency between the coach and the client or the therapist and the client, and the truth is it's their job to listen. And I can't speak for therapists because I'm not one, but in my coaching and in my trauma support, it's my job to point you in the right direction and to show you your you know your flawed thinking and to point out those gaps in your awareness and to provide you the tools and provide you the strategies. And that's usually why people come to me is they've gone to the therapy and they've got the sounding board, but they're like I don't know what to do now.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 24:29

Yeah, and so when I'm talking to somebody else and I'm like, and they're like overwhelmed, where do I begin? It's really you got to start, especially with trauma, you got to start at the most present, pressing matter, yeah, and then work from there. So we, you know, sometimes people show up and and they sign up to work with me and they're like I just have so much. Really, I got 30 years and I and, and they, then they, they look at me and they go are you overwhelmed? And I go. No, what's the thing that's happening right now, like tell me what happened today or tell me what happened yesterday, and they think I'm just like wasting their time at first. And then they catch on and they realize oh, she knows what the hell she's doing.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 25:14

Yeah, because I, like we we're, we'll clean up everything, but the thing that's most active and present is the thing that needs to be looked at. And if that thing happens to be a surfaced thing that we need to, like, work on some mindset stuff and yeah, you know reframes of then, we work on it, but most times it leads to something else. Something deeper exactly.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 25:38

Yeah, it's like follow the thread back. Yeah, before you know what you're talking to, their two-year-old version of themselves. And Okay, so really quickly. Self-trust, right, because obviously that's a big thing and if you've been through well, two things that you mentioned that are important self-trust and, and you know how do we get that back after we've experienced trauma and how do we know we've been traumatized? Because, I'll be honest, for the first 40 years of my life, I had no clue that trauma was happening beneath the surface.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 26:08

Honestly, I don't think I mean, neither did I. Like I don't think many people do. Yeah, and and and a lot of people, again, they want the sense of control. So they want, like, could you just give me a list of like symptoms? And the truth is that they all again, like they're all interchangeable.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 26:26

Yeah, it's like, have you ever and I'm sure the majority people have have you ever googled? Like I have a cramp on my left side of my body? Right, like if you could need an organ removed? Or yeah, it could be gas. Like nobody really knows until you're assessed, it's true. Yeah, so so, when it comes to like, how do you know you have trauma? Like I can give like the answer in terms of if you've ever experienced like abuse in any form. Right, like name-calling, bullying, gas lighting, manipulation, neglect on any level, things like that. Right, like Everybody wants to go to these, these big, bold labels of like my parents were a narcissist or my X was a narcissist and it's. The truth is we all have narcissistic qualities. Yeah, and there's very few of us who have been actually diagnosed with NPD, so, like, we can't use those things to really determine you've been through trauma or not. The truth is? Is that like Do you actually know what healthy feels? Like, do you?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 27:38

know what it feels like for someone to be honest and supportive, and then people, literally, when you break it down that way and deconstruct it, they go. What does that look like? Because that was me. I was like, well, love is screaming and yelling in my face and Support is making me do everything for you and you do nothing for me. That was, yeah, that was my upbringing, right. So I think we got to take it down to the very basics, the simple level of Define love for me, define care, define kindness, define support.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 28:11

What does that look like for you? Right, tell me about your relationships and what people like to talk about themselves. And if you just ask them to talk about themselves and talk about their relationships and you actually listen, you will find out very quickly Wow, you've experienced a major trauma, but I can put the label on it from the outside and I think the really big takeaway here at the end of the day is really, it's not the event itself that caused the trauma, because there's people that have been traumatized by breakups and there's people that have not been traumatized by. Yeah, it comes down to how did you cope with it? Yeah, and that's why I would deconstruct it down to like well, how are you defining this right like? What are you leaning into? What is familiar to you? What do you like? What do you like to receive? Because that will tell me how you coped with it. Wow.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 29:05

That is so beautiful.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 29:07

Yeah.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 29:08

I love that because it totally like you said, it moves away from putting the blame or whatever on the experience because, like you said, people can go through many different things in many different ways and come out with very different results and very different ways of feeling and believing about what happened to them. So I think what you said is so important we need to deconstruct what we perceive in that moment that it's happening and what.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 29:35

Yeah, I think that's important for people to hear. Also, when they're leaning into getting support from someone you know, hiring someone, that's another question. Especially after a traumatic incident or an abuse, they're like how do I know if this person can even help me? How can I trust them? Because they don't trust themselves and they don't trust their gauge. And really the best teachers, the best coaches, the best therapists will simplify it. They're not going to be using the big ass fancy language where you know they're like oh, you went in, you're in ventral vehicle. We don't talk like that, we don't. You know what I mean. We're going to explain it to you in a very basic way so you can actually grasp it. That's the best teacher and I'm sure if you thought back to any teacher you've ever had, from elementary school all the way up to how high you went, those were the best teachers, the ones that could relate, the ones that made it make sense for you, and so if they speak to you that way, listen and connect to it, because they'll help you.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 30:45

Oh my God. It's like the difference between the teacher of like, the one that speaks down to you from a pedestal and just wants to be like present as a leader, but the one who actually is a leader, who is like how do I help people understand and how do I get people to tap into their wisdom? It's almost like that whole guru thing. People wanted to kind of be on top of this pedestal and speaking to people and being the be all, end, all solution. But people got smart and they're like no, at least some of it, and I think people are catching on right.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 31:22

Yeah, because anyone could read a book, but not everybody has actually implemented, integrated, made it make sense for them, lived it, breathed it, embodied it and then can teach it.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 31:35

Yeah, and I think that's the key.

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 31:38

Yeah.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 31:39

Oh my gosh, amy, thank you so much. You're so welcome. It has been such a pleasure to have you and I'm so excited to see you know people want to connect with you if they want to follow you. I know you've got some goodies coming up too. I do. Can you share a little bit about how people can get in touch with you or follow you and what you've got coming up for us?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 31:58

Absolutely so. I have a course coming out Rebuilding Self-Trust. It's brand new. I'm very, very, very excited about it. It's a three module course. It's comprehensive, but it's going to give you some precise strategies to rebuilding that self-trust. And really, I mean I'm on every social media platform, but the best place to find me and connect is on Instagram, at AmyTheLifeCoach, or going right to my website, amyfiedlercom. You can also check out my podcast Connect the Dots Bitch on Apple, Spotify or wherever you stream your podcasts Amazing.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 32:37

Okay, Amy, thank you so much for being here. It has been an absolute pleasure. Good luck in this last leg of your pregnancy. You look gorgeous. When's the date? When's the due date?

AMY @AMYTHELIFECOACH: 32:49

The due date is January 19th. So we are, we're almost there. We're moving into the third trimester now, oh my God, so exciting, is baby room ready. No, no, it's chaos over here. I love it.

MARIA @THEFEMMECAST: 33:04

I love it Okay, Amy, we will have you back with baby in hands, maybe for the next one. Yes, I would love to. Yeah, no, that would be amazing. I will talk again very soon. That is it for this week. Everyone, until next time, massive love.